Wednesday, December 31, 7000

Permanent Top Post by JM Talboo and Steve W.

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By JM Talboo and Steve W.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-myths-on-conspiracy-theories.htmlMany people subconsciously make the mistake of only seeing the issues concerning 9/11 in black and white, as opposed to shades of gray. This is known as the black-or-white fallacy. In this case, the false dilemma is: 9/11 was either carried out by Al-Qaeda or it was "an inside job."

Just because the evidence suggests that rogue elements of the US government and intelligence apparatus, as well as other international intelligence agencies, were involved, doesn't mean bin Laden and Al-Qaeda hijackers weren't involved.

In the fight to uncover the truth about 9/11 we must contend with individuals and groups that distort, omit and lie about important details in order to defend the official narrative - the 911 truth debunkers.

 

The NORAD-stand-down, various whistleblowers ("debunkers" just assert they are all confused lying with no basis), and peer-reviewed studies of the physical evidence centered around the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center Buildings in New York, make a strong case that the attacks involved substantial inside help.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes 


We might be wrong about where we suspect this all leads, but the "debunkers" are wrong when many essentially argue that it's acceptable for 70% of 9/11 family members questions to have never been answered by the 9/11 Commission. So of course, most have no qualms about promises made to 9/11 family members being broken by the Commission to investigate all whistleblower claims, which a substantial amount of the public find highly-suspicious at minimum, with many regarding the evidence as suggestive of complicity to varied degrees.

The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members.


Truth Teller's Radio Episode 16 - 9/11/2018 JM Talboo Interviews Richard Gage about the 3000+ Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:

http://truthtellersradio.blogspot.com/2018/09/truth-tellers-radio-episode-16-9112018.html

Are there more problems with the UAF/Hulsey/AE911Truth WTC7 Draft Report or the NIST WTC 7 Report? You Decide...

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2019/09/are-there-more-problems-with.html

Firefighters for 9/11 Truth Tribute Page:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2014/03/firefighters-for-911-truth-tribute-page.html

 


         

Unsurprisingly, the duh-bunk-turds hate even the best of the "Loose Change" films, but loose ends are no biggie.

The Washington Post reported on August 2, 2006 that:
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources... "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. 'It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
So, if 9/11 didn't have an inside element, what's to stop such a scenario from taking place in the future when we get investigations that have attributes like these? 

It is therefore the purpose of this website to rebut the hollow claims of the so-called 911 truth "debunkers" and clarify what is known about the attacks for the benefit of those following the debate and also for the largely uninformed public. This site now features 9/11 truth related and not-so-related content. So please utilize our search feature (found also on the sidebar) to find a massive treasure trove of well-researched info on nearly every issue in the realm of 9/11 truth debate. 

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Tuesday, March 11, 2025

WTC 7 Jokes---A little dark humor never hurt anybody...

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  1. What do Epstein and Building 7 have in common? Neither one offed themselves.

  2. What do you call a building that falls without a reason? WTC 7 – it’s got no foundation for its story.

  3. Building 7 walked into a bar… and then collapsed for no reason at all.

  4. What’s Building 7’s favorite hobby? Falling without explanation.

  5. Why did Building 7 apply for a job in demolition? Because it’s good at bringing itself down without a second thought.

  6. Building 7, the only skyscraper that dropped without even trying.

  7. What’s Building 7's favorite song? “I’m Falling Without You” by the Kinks.

  8. Why did Building 7 make a terrible secret agent? It was always dropping hints about things it shouldn’t.

  9. They say Building 7 is the most relaxed building in the world. It always lets things just fall into place.

  10. Building 7 and a conspiracy theorist walk into a bar… one of them doesn’t walk out.

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Top 10 Mysteries of the Grand Canyon

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Top 10 Mysteries of the Grand Canyon

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The Grand Canyon is one of the most awe-inspiring natural wonders in the world, but beyond its breathtaking landscapes, it harbors a trove of mysteries that have fueled speculation for over a century. From alleged Egyptian artifacts to hidden cave systems and bizarre disappearances, this list explores the most intriguing enigmas surrounding the canyon.

1. The Egyptian Artifacts and the Smithsonian Cover-Up

One of the most controversial claims about the Grand Canyon is that ancient Egyptian artifacts were discovered within its depths. The story originates from a Phoenix Gazette article published on April 5, 1909, which described an alleged expedition led by Professor S.A. Jordan and G.E. Kincaid. According to the report, they uncovered a massive underground complex filled with hieroglyphics, statues resembling the ancient Egyptian gods, and even evidence of mummification. This would suggest that ancient Egyptians may have traveled to North America long before Columbus, challenging established historical narratives.

However, the Smithsonian Institution has repeatedly denied any involvement or knowledge of this discovery. Many researchers, however, believe these denials are part of a larger effort to suppress evidence of ancient civilizations in North America. Given the Smithsonian’s past handling of controversial artifacts, their rebuttals should be viewed with skepticism.

Researcher Reeves provides a firsthand account that exemplifies the Smithsonian’s underhanded tactics. He was originally granted permission to examine an "out of place artifact"—a mysterious coin—within their collection. The Smithsonian assured him he could photograph and test it extensively, so long as the artifact remained unharmed. However, on the very day he was scheduled to access it, the institution informed him that the coin had mysteriously gone missing!

Now this is a very important point. This incident perfectly illustrates the larger issue at hand. Only a silly coincidence theorist would miss the obvious writing on the wall! The Smithsonian’s ability to make inconvenient artifacts disappear raises serious doubts about their transparency regarding the Grand Canyon discoveries.

For more on this mystery and the Smithsonian’s history of suppressing anomalous finds, check out these sources:

This also ties into past research regarding the Smithsonian’s role in covering up evidence of giants and other anomalous discoveries:

2. The Grand Canyon's Geological Anamolies and Unconformity

The Grand Canyon is famous for its awe-inspiring beauty, but the geological formations within it present some perplexing anomalies. One of the most talked-about features is the "unconformity" found at the canyon’s base, where layers of rock are seemingly out of place and overlap in a way that defies conventional geological timelines. Some researchers suggest this unconformity represents a break in time, where millions of years of Earth's history may be missing.

The scientific explanation suggests that the rock layers in the canyon were deposited at different times and that erosion has caused the upper layers to shift and reveal the older strata beneath. However, many are skeptical of this explanation, arguing that the evidence of such a significant time gap may point to a much older history for the Earth than previously thought.

There are also strange reports from geologists who claim to have found unusual mineral deposits within the canyon that do not seem to belong to the area, further complicating the geology of the region. Some propose that these deposits, along with the unconformity, could be signs of a lost civilization or even extraterrestrial involvement.

For more on the Grand Canyon’s geological anomalies, check out:

3. Mysterious Caves and Secret Entrances 

The Grand Canyon is known for its vast network of caves, many of which remain unexplored. Some claim these caves contain ancient artifacts, strange carvings, or even evidence of past human habitation that predates recorded history. Others speculate they could be entrances to an underground civilization.

Another major mystery associated with the Grand Canyon is the existence of secret caves and hidden entrances. Over the years, there have been numerous reports of cave systems being discovered deep within the canyon, some of which supposedly lead to ancient chambers or even lost civilizations. These stories have captivated the imagination of explorers and conspiracy theorists alike.

In one of the more famous tales, an explorer claimed to have stumbled upon a vast underground network filled with ancient Egyptian relics and strange symbols. However, after reporting his discovery, he was reportedly silenced, and the entrance was later sealed. Some conspiracy theorists believe that the caves may contain evidence of lost civilizations, possibly linked to the Egyptian artifacts mentioned earlier.

If these caves do exist, the implications could be massive, suggesting that advanced cultures lived in the region long before the Native American tribes or any other known inhabitants. The idea of hidden entrances to ancient civilizations ties into broader theories of secret knowledge being suppressed by powerful organizations.

For more on these mysterious caves, see:

4. UFO Sightings in the Grand Canyon 

The Grand Canyon has also become a hotspot for UFO sightings. Over the years, there have been numerous reports of unidentified flying objects seen hovering over the canyon or even descending into its depths. These incidents are often dismissed as misidentifications or hoaxes, but some believe they could be linked to extraterrestrial activity in the region.

One of the most intriguing reports comes from a 2020 sighting of a white UFO with a dome in the middle, seen hovering over the canyon. The object was captured on video, and the footage has sparked intense debate among UFO researchers. Was this a craft from another world, or is there a more earthly explanation? Some speculate that these sightings could be connected to the alleged ancient civilizations within the canyon, possibly suggesting a link between extraterrestrial visitors and the lost cultures.

Another sighting occurred in 2018, when a UFO was filmed flying above the canyon. Witnesses described the object as a bright light that moved erratically in the sky before disappearing into the clouds. Similar incidents, such as a shadow of a human figure captured in the canyon in 2010, have led some to question if there are unknown forces operating in the region.

For more on UFO sightings over the Grand Canyon, check out these links:

One of the most outlandish claims suggests that a 4,000-year-old UFO was discovered buried within the canyon. While mainstream archaeologists dismiss such stories as myths, some UFO researchers argue that ancient alien visitations could explain the anomalies found in the area.

Sources exploring this claim:

5. Unsolved Murders and Missing Persons

Numerous hikers and explorers have gone missing in the Grand Canyon under mysterious circumstances. Some of these cases remain unsolved, with bodies never recovered. Could unknown forces or hidden dangers within the canyon be responsible?

The Grand Canyon has also been the site of numerous unsolved murders and mysterious disappearances. Some of these cases date back to the early 20th century, while others are more recent. Many of the disappearances have taken place in remote areas of the canyon, where rugged terrain and harsh conditions make search efforts difficult.

In one particularly disturbing case, a man was found dead in the canyon under suspicious circumstances. The official cause of death was ruled as an accident, but evidence suggested foul play. There are also reports of people vanishing without a trace, with some speculating that they may have stumbled upon something they weren't supposed to see.

For more information on the dark side of the Grand Canyon, including its unsolved murders and missing persons cases, see:

6. The Grand Canyon's Forbidden Zones

Certain areas of the Grand Canyon are strictly off-limits to the public. While official explanations cite environmental preservation and safety concerns, some believe these regions may hide ancient structures or significant archaeological discoveries. Theories suggest that underground tunnels and lost civilizations could be concealed in these restricted areas.

More details on these forbidden zones can be explored here:

7. The Great Unconformity: Missing Time in the Canyon's Rocks

Geologists have long puzzled over the Great Unconformity, a massive geological anomaly where over a billion years' worth of rock layers are simply missing. Scientists remain baffled as to where these layers went and what catastrophic event may have removed them.

More on this geological mystery can be found here:

8. The Grim Reaper of the Grand Canyon

A chilling urban legend suggests that a spectral entity, often referred to as the "Grim Reaper," roams the Grand Canyon. Witnesses claim to have seen a shadowy figure lurking near dangerous cliffs, sometimes appearing just before fatal accidents.

More on this unsettling phenomenon:

9. Bizarre Deaths Including Self Inflicted Variety 

One of the most commonly asked questions from weary travelers is said to concern the amount of people who have met their demise at the Canyon. The answer is "about 900" as of August 2024. Before Orwelian newspeak came about there used to be a word for the self Inflicted variety that started with an S. Nowadays, the sheeple say unalived instead. You see, if you're unalive, that sounds and FEELS better than just plain old being dead. That said, the answer to the question at hand is "about 91" per the same authoritative  source.

"The leading cause of death is airplane and helicopter crashes, followed by falling from cliffs, environmental deaths (such as overheating), and drowning. On average, about 11 people die per year in the Grand Canyon."

https://wereintherockies.com/how-many-people-have-died-in-the-grand-canyon/

Over the years, the Grand Canyon has been the site of numerous strange deaths, suicides, and unexplained accidents. Some believe there is a darker energy at play in the region.

For a deep dive into these incidents, visit:

10. The True Origins of the Grand Canyon 

While conventional science attributes the formation of the Grand Canyon to millions of years of erosion, some alternative theories suggest that cataclysmic events—perhaps even linked to ancient civilizations—played a role. Some researchers argue that the Grand Canyon’s formation may be tied to forgotten histories and lost knowledge.

A breakdown of these theories can be found here:

Final Thoughts

The Grand Canyon is more than just a natural wonder—it is a place of hidden history, unsolved disappearances, and strange occurrences. Whether these mysteries stem from lost civilizations, ancient visitors, or unexplained natural phenomena, they continue to captivate those who seek the truth.

For those who want to explore these topics further, the sources provided offer deeper insights into each of these mysteries.

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Monday, March 10, 2025

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Sunday, March 9, 2025

Newsom was brave for this podcast. The hyperpartisan bubble sphere needs to be popped with civil debate/conversation. Of course the legacy media twisted his words...

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